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Biblical Questions and answers on Early Christian 'Love Feasts'
May 27, 2019
11:02 am
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David Jay Jordan
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Thanks for allowing me to post HERE, as someone gave your hyperlink to your forum, on a forum I frequent.

We're Christians, believing and practicing Christian love and the sexual sharing of love as Christ taught His disciples.

So along these lines, because a lot of swingers are Christians and yet maybe a little hesitant as they might think they will lose their connection and even eternal soul for joining in with 'freer love'. Hence they can be helped by having a greater knowledge of their roots in bible history, truths, sexuality and in this case the 'LOVE FEASTS OF THE EARLY CHRISTIANS.

Its a little elusive to study as the self righteous branch of religion took over the early Church from the original doctrine established and practiced by the followers of the Lord who directly learnt from the Lord. But from the persecutors writings against these love feasts, it can be determined that there was definitely shared love between members and it was used as a means to gather more members to the true original church.

Jesus law was love.... love with responsibility and choice, so that with secured love, male or females could share their love with others.

If you have any queries, just ask..

Ha, ask and ye shall receive.. and more than just a peck on the cheek.

LIJ

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May 27, 2019
6:01 pm
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In other words, Jesus taught a more sexual communion to His disciples (whether male or female) than what the church system now teaches. Why because sexual union of sharing willingly with another, bonds them by the very act of love and lovemaking.

It was in the Old Testament but a bit more hidden, as there was a common rule of hospitality to share your wife or their handmaidens (female slaves) with strangers passing through who were your guests for the night,

Sadly there was slavery in the past, and handmaidens and slaves were not allowed to have a choice, yet it also has to be mentioned that two of the four wives if Jacob (Israel) were handmaidens of his two so called free wives (Rachel; and Leah) Paid for by a shubuah of time meaning 7 years). Yet all the children of the two free and two handmaidens were equal in inheritance.... toally 12 male offspring)

May 27, 2019
6:10 pm
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But back to CHRISTian love feats, they were unlike Roman orgies, because the women involved were not slaves or handmaidens but free citizens. Romans had their basically drunken orgies but they basically were paid for by the rich men, who used their slave women to be the center of attraction for their quests to have a good time. Also they could employ Roman prostitutes as they were quite abundant back then. Whereas Christian Love Feasts were inclandestine in the catacombs usually and away from roaming Roman eyes. It brought people together and because of this was deemed very dangerous by both the new false church system and even the political system of Rome, because early Christians were not patriotic and nationalistic, and not into worshipping the Emperor.

So Yes, the early Christians were driven more and more underground..... even as it will get harder and harder to associate today. The religious church system persecuted them and literally hunted them down, and killed them. They destroyed their writings, and almost obliterated all traces of their shared love with others.

It was free of charge, and no expectations were expected..... and because it was done sacrificially for the sake of those receiving the love, it had a great effect on the whole society.

May 27, 2019
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This thread is in the Swingers Talk Section, so along these lines biblically...... lovers and swingers when writing to each other, were very discreet in their language, using euphanisms, that fly over the head of many readers today.

And because the church system has so ingrained sex as evil and devilish, readers wont even consider the obvious references as if ludicrous to imply sexually. So it takes almost a new mind set to read the past, and even Jesus times with true discernment and true gusto and INspiration.

Most of you I assume have read the Song of Solomon. He went a bit overboard with his polygamy as David only had eight wives I believe it was, whereas Solomon had a thousand (check the numbers) I reckon he forgot a few of their names. Well the Song of Solomon, is poetic lovemaking in writing which describes methods and imagery of those in love.

Her garden and her ointments are exactly what we understand if we have had oral sex, and beyond. All created by the Creator... for multiple purposes IMO.

So there be a few questions answered and a few things shallowly explained, but if you have questions, just ask, and lets get down to the root of the SOLUTION. The root or Horn, the solution or water of life, the lily, the garden, the nectar, the honey, sweet to the taste but bitter in the stomach.

May 28, 2019
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Heres a sample... a very small sample, as the male lover, says some outrageous things...

Song of Solomon 8 King James Version (KJV)

8 O that thou wert as my brother, that sucked the breasts of my mother! when I should find thee without, I would kiss thee; yea, I should not be despised.

2 I would lead thee, and bring thee into my mother's house, who would instruct me: I would cause thee to drink of spiced wine of the juice of my pomegranate.

3 His left hand should be under my head, and his right hand should embrace me.

4 I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, until he please.

(End of quote)

His mother instructs his new lover... Yikes... until you know who the mother is H.S.

Tells him and her how to embrace and hold his newly beloved, even how to drink of his pomegranites.

OH sweet mystery of life at last I have found thee......

NO wonder pomegranities are on top of the two pillars of the temple... they are literally and figureatively sexual, reproductive and life giving....

Enter into the door (Note door stands for vagina) and is a portal....and is designed with the reproductive ratio oif life the vescica pisces.

Ahh... I love doors and portals, and had lots of pomegranate juice for all, in my earlier days, for my earlier beloveds.

Whew, this bible reading is getting a bit too hot... Better take a shower, whoops theres Bathseba over there doing the same thing. Got to keep my eyes straight ahead, cause she sure is beautiful....

May 29, 2019
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OK, no questions, therefore no answers from any of us can be given. This unless everyone knows it all and theres nothing more to be learned., This I doubt

So the question becomes why if swingers are so liberated, why are they so silent ?

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